我再次來到這裡為 @akileshpotti 進行簡單易懂的解釋。 以下是詳細說明: (a) 像 ERC-8004 這樣的代理註冊表充其量只是個中等解決方案:鏈上的註冊表是處理代理發現和互動這樣複雜事務的無效方式。實際上,它並不好用。 (b) 實際的鏈上代理:如果你真的想要在區塊鏈上實現「無信任的 AI 代理」,邏輯上的步驟是將 AI 模型和代理作為鏈本身的核心部分——內置於執行和共識層。這是鏈上任何人都可以本地且安全地訪問它們的方式。@ritualnet 已經構建了這個。一個註冊表無法實現這一點(見 (c)) (c) 笨拙的鏈上/鏈下橋接不起作用:ERC-8004 是一個粗糙的補丁,用於連接鏈上和鏈下系統。我們知道這對用戶體驗和產品來說是次優的,因為我們在 @ritualnet 幾乎兩年前就構建了這個確切的模型,使用我們的 Infernet 預言機。這只是一個半解決方案(這就是我們決定確立自己基礎設施的原因) (d) 看看誰在真正賺錢:成功的 Web2 代理公司如 @DecagonAI 和 @cursor_ai 並沒有使用一些混亂的開放發現市場。他們賺錢的方式是 (1) 重複運行一個強大的代理,或者 (2) 以高度結構化的方式使用一小組固定的代理。「代理將隨機發現彼此」的夢想在實踐中並不是盈利產品的構建方式(如果這是你的目標) (e) 沒有人在解決的難題:從區塊鏈調用代理很簡單。真正的挑戰是構建正確的基礎設施。這意味著: - 可擴展性:避免冗餘計算而不妨礙安全性。 - 定價:為這些特定模型/代理構建新穎的費用市場 - 實用性:包括諸如定期交易(想想鏈上 Cron 作業)等基本功能,使代理真正有用 沒有其他 L1 思考過這些問題或構建解決所有這些問題的基礎設施。只有 @ritualnet。 (說實話,這次在他的 OG 貼文上更易於消化,所以我建議大家閱讀一下)
Akilesh Potti
Akilesh Potti8月27日 07:19
i am once again here to say agent discovery & registry hell is one of the least impactful things to focus on that for whatever reason keeps nerd sniping cracked ppl...most "mid" solutions for it are good enough and "better" solutions barely move the needle either you: 1) actually take your 'thought experiment' to its sci-fi logical conclusion wrt "autonomous" + "trustless" agents and make them a first class citizen by enshrining the {fdn model, tool use, etc.} components of an agent directly into the chain* (we do this) rather than frankensteining together some off-chain & on-chain stuff as mentioned in 8004 (we did this: infernet) 2) stay grounded in reality & grok how the largest b2b / b2b2c web2 agent startups (sierra, decagon, ...) that are printing real $$$ work. either they're in the camp of single general purpose agent deployed many times or a statically defined computational graph of how specialized agents communicate. this intellectual masturbatory notion of dynamic graphs of agents discovering each other much less useful than you may think if you're in the camp of web2 cos getting real users. if you're not in this camp, and believe in futuristic settings, then you should do 1). anything in between is worst of both worlds imo. *feel free to @ me but your fave L1 today (eth, solana, monad, ...) doesn't allow for enshrined agents. it's also highly non-trivial for them to do this given it's not in line with their fundamental design. expanding the exec clients' vm to handle fwd passes across oss llms, network calls for tool use, etc. is the easy part. hard part is bypassing replicated exec in consensus for non-deterministic behavior w/out ~degrading safety/liveness, fee mech, and how to allow for scheduled txs to exist in a way without borking the perf / end UX for regular txs. wouldn't be possible for us without the gigabrains @noamnisan @n_durvasula @bahrani_maryam and others coming up with some new machinery. reality is most L1s are an exercise in networking-bound settings...we're in an exec-bound one.
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